Wednesday, April 19, 2006
Cathy...
...WOW!
Here's what Cathy posted to the comments section of Skelly's blog...
(Skelly quoted me re:) "I have every reason to believe…" I like that, very expert-sounding, but in fact, his defense attorney hasn't said anything of the sort.
Cathy:
"Aren't you inferring things that were not said? He didn't say that the defense attorney had said anything specific. He said that he "believed" that she would make a specific recommendation. Turns out he was right doesn't it? The defense attorney did exactly as he thought she would. Based on his experience he was able to predict exactly what would happen. I'm not sure why you or anyone else would take offense with the fact that the man had an opinion. Unless of course it's because his opinion shed a negative light on the position you hold in the legal system.
Sorry but being a Defense Attorney does not exempt you or anyone in your profession from criticism. If you are so bothered by it why not take it up with the multitude of Defense Attorneys out there who give the profession a bad name? Your time might be more productively spent doing that instead of ragging on some man who genuinely cares about his BIL. Go rag on those who might actually bring about change in the system instead of someone who no longer trusts the system due to a negative history with it.
"add the posting relative's speculation and expert opinion that bipolar is an affirmative defense,"
At no time has it been insinuated or even outright stated that bipolar is a defense. In my opinion you have quite the talent for twisting words around to make them mean what you want. The mere fact that he mentions that his BIL is bipolar does not translate into he should be given special treatment because of the fact. You pulled that implication out of thin air.
You know what impresses me? The fact that you are an over-worked Defense Attorney who has so much time for cruising the internet. Maybe the "unseemly amount of time" you spend searching the internet would be better spent working on that heavy case load you have. I'm sure your clients would appreciate your unseemly interest in their cases. But, hey, if you would rather search the internet and rag on people who are concerned about their relatives that is your business. Just as it is his business to be concerned and to express his concerns.
Seriously, don't you think this entire post and the question of whether or not you should have shared what you had found with the other attorney a bit sophomoric? It smacks of something you would expect from a high school kid, not an adult and especially not a member of the profession you are in. I would think you people would have better things to do than spend time discussing the fact that a perfect stranger has a negative opinion about your chosen profession. Then again, maybe you don't huh?
Cathy | Homepage | 04.19.06 - 12:39 am | #
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Thank you Cathy! Thank you...
I wasn't sure I was making sense with my posts and I thought we were in this alone.
Thank you.
On a side note, I did have a fleeting bit of encouragement today but it fell through re: a possible ear... someone who I thought might listen. Oh well.
An update: I went to bpbil's arraignment today. He tried to dismiss Ms. Murphy as his public defender but the judge wouldn't allow it. Although the judge did offer Ms. Murphy an opportunity to "remove herself" from representing bpbil... she refused. She wanted to remain as his counsel.
...this is a travesty. An attorney who refuses to work with "the accused"... an attorney who will not discuss his case with him yet is force fed to him by the court! By the judge!
After she stated she wanted to remain as his counsel the judge then announced (with a chuckle) "Then you're still his counsel!"
It's all a sham...
After that he proceeded to chastise bpbil... telling him that the judge hearing his case would most likely "lock you up and throw away the key" based upon his prior criminal history.
Now that's an unbiased statement, eh?
Obviously, the judge was close to intimidating bpbil into copping the plea of guilty for something bpbil claims he didn't do... Innocent until proven guilty???
I will say bpbil continued to profess his innocence to the judge... something he's never done in the past. It fell on deaf ears.
When bpbil opted for a trial the judge told him he was entitled to a trial but he was obviously annoyed.
I know. I watched the proceedings through that point. Prior to hearing bpbil the judge was very animated, jovial, even entertaining at times. He was fun to watch... until bpbil appeared (on camera) and opted to "dismiss" his attorney. Then the judge's mood changed. It was no longer that pleasant, everyday jovial judge mood but an almost threatening, annoyed, chastising judge mood.
"You're going to lose" attitude by the judge followed by the affirmative nodding of Ms. Murphy, bpbil's "public defender".
They're willing to send bpbil up for years on misdemeanors... "lock him up and throw away the key... a long, long time." because he has a "bad record". Not based on the merits or facts obtained but based upon his prior history! Things he's already served time for that has nothing to do with these... allegations.
Piss poor follow up on the allegations though!
Where's the justice here.
Coupled with this was another charge of assault... three days prior, on March 19th. It's obvious they're going to try to bury bpbil in the system.
My question is if there was an alleged assault on the 19th of March... three days prior to the "original" charges why did his wife wait so long to report it? Why wasn't it reported at the time... much like the other ones were reported. Was she fabricating this assault much like the assault she admitted to "J", Donna (J's now deceased mother who actually despised bpbil's wife) and I to having fabricated back in 2002? Admitted over and over and over again... with what we thought was genuine remorse.
There are witnesses as to what bpbil was doing on the 19th of March and it had nothing to do with associating with his... wife... who is far, far less a person than bpbil's son's mother... the addict and alcoholic from Georgia.
No one seems to be asking these questions... no one seems to be following up on this information to confirm whether or not these assaults actually did occur. But then again, why would they? They have a convicted felon accused of a crime here. He has to be guilty! Look at his record.
They're simply taking his... wife's... (that's so damned hard to say... "his wife's." I can't believe he married that thing) word for everything.
I'd say put him on the box... polygraph him. He's offered to do it... so do it!
Then, offer it to her and her... offspring and trolls.
For what it's worth.
Here's what Cathy posted to the comments section of Skelly's blog...
(Skelly quoted me re:) "I have every reason to believe…" I like that, very expert-sounding, but in fact, his defense attorney hasn't said anything of the sort.
Cathy:
"Aren't you inferring things that were not said? He didn't say that the defense attorney had said anything specific. He said that he "believed" that she would make a specific recommendation. Turns out he was right doesn't it? The defense attorney did exactly as he thought she would. Based on his experience he was able to predict exactly what would happen. I'm not sure why you or anyone else would take offense with the fact that the man had an opinion. Unless of course it's because his opinion shed a negative light on the position you hold in the legal system.
Sorry but being a Defense Attorney does not exempt you or anyone in your profession from criticism. If you are so bothered by it why not take it up with the multitude of Defense Attorneys out there who give the profession a bad name? Your time might be more productively spent doing that instead of ragging on some man who genuinely cares about his BIL. Go rag on those who might actually bring about change in the system instead of someone who no longer trusts the system due to a negative history with it.
"add the posting relative's speculation and expert opinion that bipolar is an affirmative defense,"
At no time has it been insinuated or even outright stated that bipolar is a defense. In my opinion you have quite the talent for twisting words around to make them mean what you want. The mere fact that he mentions that his BIL is bipolar does not translate into he should be given special treatment because of the fact. You pulled that implication out of thin air.
You know what impresses me? The fact that you are an over-worked Defense Attorney who has so much time for cruising the internet. Maybe the "unseemly amount of time" you spend searching the internet would be better spent working on that heavy case load you have. I'm sure your clients would appreciate your unseemly interest in their cases. But, hey, if you would rather search the internet and rag on people who are concerned about their relatives that is your business. Just as it is his business to be concerned and to express his concerns.
Seriously, don't you think this entire post and the question of whether or not you should have shared what you had found with the other attorney a bit sophomoric? It smacks of something you would expect from a high school kid, not an adult and especially not a member of the profession you are in. I would think you people would have better things to do than spend time discussing the fact that a perfect stranger has a negative opinion about your chosen profession. Then again, maybe you don't huh?
Cathy | Homepage | 04.19.06 - 12:39 am | #
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Thank you Cathy! Thank you...
I wasn't sure I was making sense with my posts and I thought we were in this alone.
Thank you.
On a side note, I did have a fleeting bit of encouragement today but it fell through re: a possible ear... someone who I thought might listen. Oh well.
An update: I went to bpbil's arraignment today. He tried to dismiss Ms. Murphy as his public defender but the judge wouldn't allow it. Although the judge did offer Ms. Murphy an opportunity to "remove herself" from representing bpbil... she refused. She wanted to remain as his counsel.
...this is a travesty. An attorney who refuses to work with "the accused"... an attorney who will not discuss his case with him yet is force fed to him by the court! By the judge!
After she stated she wanted to remain as his counsel the judge then announced (with a chuckle) "Then you're still his counsel!"
It's all a sham...
After that he proceeded to chastise bpbil... telling him that the judge hearing his case would most likely "lock you up and throw away the key" based upon his prior criminal history.
Now that's an unbiased statement, eh?
Obviously, the judge was close to intimidating bpbil into copping the plea of guilty for something bpbil claims he didn't do... Innocent until proven guilty???
I will say bpbil continued to profess his innocence to the judge... something he's never done in the past. It fell on deaf ears.
When bpbil opted for a trial the judge told him he was entitled to a trial but he was obviously annoyed.
I know. I watched the proceedings through that point. Prior to hearing bpbil the judge was very animated, jovial, even entertaining at times. He was fun to watch... until bpbil appeared (on camera) and opted to "dismiss" his attorney. Then the judge's mood changed. It was no longer that pleasant, everyday jovial judge mood but an almost threatening, annoyed, chastising judge mood.
"You're going to lose" attitude by the judge followed by the affirmative nodding of Ms. Murphy, bpbil's "public defender".
They're willing to send bpbil up for years on misdemeanors... "lock him up and throw away the key... a long, long time." because he has a "bad record". Not based on the merits or facts obtained but based upon his prior history! Things he's already served time for that has nothing to do with these... allegations.
Piss poor follow up on the allegations though!
Where's the justice here.
Coupled with this was another charge of assault... three days prior, on March 19th. It's obvious they're going to try to bury bpbil in the system.
My question is if there was an alleged assault on the 19th of March... three days prior to the "original" charges why did his wife wait so long to report it? Why wasn't it reported at the time... much like the other ones were reported. Was she fabricating this assault much like the assault she admitted to "J", Donna (J's now deceased mother who actually despised bpbil's wife) and I to having fabricated back in 2002? Admitted over and over and over again... with what we thought was genuine remorse.
There are witnesses as to what bpbil was doing on the 19th of March and it had nothing to do with associating with his... wife... who is far, far less a person than bpbil's son's mother... the addict and alcoholic from Georgia.
No one seems to be asking these questions... no one seems to be following up on this information to confirm whether or not these assaults actually did occur. But then again, why would they? They have a convicted felon accused of a crime here. He has to be guilty! Look at his record.
They're simply taking his... wife's... (that's so damned hard to say... "his wife's." I can't believe he married that thing) word for everything.
I'd say put him on the box... polygraph him. He's offered to do it... so do it!
Then, offer it to her and her... offspring and trolls.
For what it's worth.
Tuesday, April 18, 2006
kathy's post on skelly's blog...
...was a bit intriguing.
Sorry all... bear with me. I'm a bit pre-occupied right now.
Kathy, you posted this on Skelly's blog.
"i appreciate when family members are coming through to support the client -- but sometimes fillial love doesn't take into account things like evidence. [then, there are the other times when family members just don't want to be bothered, even if they are witnesses.]
there is just no question that lawyers in the criminal system are overloaded. in a lot of ordinary trial-level cases, to tell the truth, there is not that much to argue about. defense lawyers don't hold some kind of magic "get out of jail" card.
but defense lawyers do have some magic. you want a trial? you get a trial -- even if you are likely to lose on the facts, and get a whole lot more time. we fight to get the state's evidence. we research and do the best we can to find out when that evidence is questionable and unreliable. we keep the state from cheating, or else explain how they are cheating. we look for witnesses, and work with them. we lose sleep trying to write the best arguments we can for the jury, or for the court.
we share our stories and problems, and brainstorm how best to help the client. because that is the whole deal -- how best to help the client.
kathy a | 04.18.06 - 4:55 pm | #"
I truly want to believe that you would "fight to get the state's evidence... research and do the best (sic) to find out when that evidence is questionable and unreliable."
I would love to believe that you "keep the state from cheating, or else explain how they are cheating."
I would embrace your idea of "look(ing) for witnesses, and work(ing) with them."
Re: sleep... what is that?
But, overall... the best and most encouraging comment you made was "we share our stories and problems, and brainstorm how best to help the client. because that is the whole deal -- how best to help the client."
If you believe... if you truly believe this stuff that you posted then step up to the plate and prod your fellow Public Defenders along with you... because, from what I'm hearing this just "ain't the case"... though I'm sure from your post that you're well intended.
Drop an email if you feel the urge to.
What I'm basically saying is justice ain't happening with bi-polar brother in law. His "Public Defender" made up her mind long before she ever talked with him.
...and it isn't "how best to help the client."
Sorry all... bear with me. I'm a bit pre-occupied right now.
Kathy, you posted this on Skelly's blog.
"i appreciate when family members are coming through to support the client -- but sometimes fillial love doesn't take into account things like evidence. [then, there are the other times when family members just don't want to be bothered, even if they are witnesses.]
there is just no question that lawyers in the criminal system are overloaded. in a lot of ordinary trial-level cases, to tell the truth, there is not that much to argue about. defense lawyers don't hold some kind of magic "get out of jail" card.
but defense lawyers do have some magic. you want a trial? you get a trial -- even if you are likely to lose on the facts, and get a whole lot more time. we fight to get the state's evidence. we research and do the best we can to find out when that evidence is questionable and unreliable. we keep the state from cheating, or else explain how they are cheating. we look for witnesses, and work with them. we lose sleep trying to write the best arguments we can for the jury, or for the court.
we share our stories and problems, and brainstorm how best to help the client. because that is the whole deal -- how best to help the client.
kathy a | 04.18.06 - 4:55 pm | #"
I truly want to believe that you would "fight to get the state's evidence... research and do the best (sic) to find out when that evidence is questionable and unreliable."
I would love to believe that you "keep the state from cheating, or else explain how they are cheating."
I would embrace your idea of "look(ing) for witnesses, and work(ing) with them."
Re: sleep... what is that?
But, overall... the best and most encouraging comment you made was "we share our stories and problems, and brainstorm how best to help the client. because that is the whole deal -- how best to help the client."
If you believe... if you truly believe this stuff that you posted then step up to the plate and prod your fellow Public Defenders along with you... because, from what I'm hearing this just "ain't the case"... though I'm sure from your post that you're well intended.
Drop an email if you feel the urge to.
What I'm basically saying is justice ain't happening with bi-polar brother in law. His "Public Defender" made up her mind long before she ever talked with him.
...and it isn't "how best to help the client."
innocuous comments...
...from those who look upon us as Blog slaggers.
Did you know that if you write a post that might slight a public defender you're known as a blog slagger in their language. Of course, we're viewed as lesser humans... I've already experienced these conversations between public defenders and deputy prosecutors. True... family and witnesses for the accused are viewed as lesser humans, liars... those who will do anything... say anything to keep their family, friend from copping a plea.
Read the comments posted by those who read Skelly's blog regarding bi-polar brother in law...
Hell, read the comment by Mr. or Ms. Anonymous to this blog...
...I'll post it:
"Anonymous said...
"money hungry lawyers" Are you serious? Do you know how much a public defender makes? I can assure you, PDs are about as far away from being money hungry as social workers and non-profit workers. They're in the trenches, doing the Lord's work. As are Prosecutors, doing the Lord's work, and not "money hungry" either.
Tuesday, April 18, 2006 3:02:44 PM"
You know, there was a day when I actually believed that. Early in my career I actually believed that these people... these attorneys were hard working, truth seeking, compassionate human beings who were working for the good of the accused... seeking justice for them and their cause.
Yeah, there was that day until I was invited into their conversations... their drunken discussions about this idiot or that idiot... discussions about how the public defender would love to get into the wife's or girlfriend's pants... or how the deputy prosecutor would laugh... screaming laughter with the public defender... back slapping, drink spilling laughter... bragging about how they flushed another one.
"He might not have done this one but he's done enough of the other stuff to make up for it!" or...
"He deserves it... don't worry about it. You did a good job with what little you had."... and then they laugh together... drink together.
This makes my skin crawl... it made it crawl then and it makes it crawl now.
I know there's some damned fine attorneys out there. Damned fine attorneys who are damned fine human beings and definitely know how to do their job! I just haven't seen too many around here lately. Not on this Thurston County criminal and family court side anyways. At least not any of those I've seen within the past three years.
Nope. It's either money or plead... no compromise.
I would think that an attorney who is interested in determining whether an "accused" (note they really don't refer to any "accused" as a "client" in the Public Defenders realm) actually committed the offense he/she was accused of committing would be interested in obtaining information from those who would be close to the entire situation. Those who have observed behaviors on all sides.
I would think the Public Defender would be interested in discussing the particulars of the case with the accused... at least!
That does not include discussing the accused's case with the accusers... no one on the accused's behalf... absolutely no one... and then visiting the accused and demanding that he plead guilty or she'll "tell the judge that (the accused) has a bad attitude!"
That's uncalled for!
Where's the representation here?
And the childish accusations of lies... I've been accused of lying to this woman I've never met... never talked to...
Hell, I haven't tried to contact her. I gave up on her when she suggested bi-polar brother in law cop a plea (yeah skelly... "cop a plea") because I knew she wasn't going to listen. I knew she was only interested in clearing this file from her "in basket" or "to do" list.
...and you know what? Skelly and company proved me right. Their comments are about my posts, about me being "an extremely disgruntled family member of an incarcerated accused."
They don't question my intent... the possibility that there might be a valid claim here. They don't entertain the possibility that there's some merit to what is being said.
No, instead they circle the wagons, light the bonfire, gather around and chatter to one another about those big bad slaggers out there who want to burst bubbles... who want to expose their little c'est la vis world for what it is...
Nope... instead I get an anonymous post. I will say that the anonymous poster did provide me with the path back to skelly's blog though... and I do thank him/her for that because now I know I'm being read... for what it's worth.
Perhaps one of those damned fine attorneys out there who happens to read Skelly's blog might... just might take up an interest and get the urge to put the puzzle together, listen to some history... facts, rather than insist the accused "cop a plea" or be branded to the judge as having a "bad attitude".
No, I'm not covert... not covert at all. I have a name... he gave it to you. I have a phone number, I have email. My wife even called your office once... weeks ago. We're still waiting for your return call.
Pathetic...
That's what this whole Thurston County "Public Defenders" thing is... pathetic.
If you want respect seek the facts, truths. If you want an apology do your job.
Did you know that if you write a post that might slight a public defender you're known as a blog slagger in their language. Of course, we're viewed as lesser humans... I've already experienced these conversations between public defenders and deputy prosecutors. True... family and witnesses for the accused are viewed as lesser humans, liars... those who will do anything... say anything to keep their family, friend from copping a plea.
Read the comments posted by those who read Skelly's blog regarding bi-polar brother in law...
Hell, read the comment by Mr. or Ms. Anonymous to this blog...
...I'll post it:
"Anonymous said...
"money hungry lawyers" Are you serious? Do you know how much a public defender makes? I can assure you, PDs are about as far away from being money hungry as social workers and non-profit workers. They're in the trenches, doing the Lord's work. As are Prosecutors, doing the Lord's work, and not "money hungry" either.
Tuesday, April 18, 2006 3:02:44 PM"
You know, there was a day when I actually believed that. Early in my career I actually believed that these people... these attorneys were hard working, truth seeking, compassionate human beings who were working for the good of the accused... seeking justice for them and their cause.
Yeah, there was that day until I was invited into their conversations... their drunken discussions about this idiot or that idiot... discussions about how the public defender would love to get into the wife's or girlfriend's pants... or how the deputy prosecutor would laugh... screaming laughter with the public defender... back slapping, drink spilling laughter... bragging about how they flushed another one.
"He might not have done this one but he's done enough of the other stuff to make up for it!" or...
"He deserves it... don't worry about it. You did a good job with what little you had."... and then they laugh together... drink together.
This makes my skin crawl... it made it crawl then and it makes it crawl now.
I know there's some damned fine attorneys out there. Damned fine attorneys who are damned fine human beings and definitely know how to do their job! I just haven't seen too many around here lately. Not on this Thurston County criminal and family court side anyways. At least not any of those I've seen within the past three years.
Nope. It's either money or plead... no compromise.
I would think that an attorney who is interested in determining whether an "accused" (note they really don't refer to any "accused" as a "client" in the Public Defenders realm) actually committed the offense he/she was accused of committing would be interested in obtaining information from those who would be close to the entire situation. Those who have observed behaviors on all sides.
I would think the Public Defender would be interested in discussing the particulars of the case with the accused... at least!
That does not include discussing the accused's case with the accusers... no one on the accused's behalf... absolutely no one... and then visiting the accused and demanding that he plead guilty or she'll "tell the judge that (the accused) has a bad attitude!"
That's uncalled for!
Where's the representation here?
And the childish accusations of lies... I've been accused of lying to this woman I've never met... never talked to...
Hell, I haven't tried to contact her. I gave up on her when she suggested bi-polar brother in law cop a plea (yeah skelly... "cop a plea") because I knew she wasn't going to listen. I knew she was only interested in clearing this file from her "in basket" or "to do" list.
...and you know what? Skelly and company proved me right. Their comments are about my posts, about me being "an extremely disgruntled family member of an incarcerated accused."
They don't question my intent... the possibility that there might be a valid claim here. They don't entertain the possibility that there's some merit to what is being said.
No, instead they circle the wagons, light the bonfire, gather around and chatter to one another about those big bad slaggers out there who want to burst bubbles... who want to expose their little c'est la vis world for what it is...
Nope... instead I get an anonymous post. I will say that the anonymous poster did provide me with the path back to skelly's blog though... and I do thank him/her for that because now I know I'm being read... for what it's worth.
Perhaps one of those damned fine attorneys out there who happens to read Skelly's blog might... just might take up an interest and get the urge to put the puzzle together, listen to some history... facts, rather than insist the accused "cop a plea" or be branded to the judge as having a "bad attitude".
No, I'm not covert... not covert at all. I have a name... he gave it to you. I have a phone number, I have email. My wife even called your office once... weeks ago. We're still waiting for your return call.
Pathetic...
That's what this whole Thurston County "Public Defenders" thing is... pathetic.
If you want respect seek the facts, truths. If you want an apology do your job.
musta hit a nerve...
...judging from the increased frequency of visits, etc. to the blog by attorneys and the likes.
The following is an excerpt from a blog authored by an attorney who claims on his blog to be a colleague of bi-polar brother in law's "Public Defender".
"April 17, 2006
Blog slag - advice wanted
My defense-inclined sistren and brethren:
You know I spend an unseemly amount of time browsing the various search engines for the latest tidings of public defender joy from the internets.
Usually I share the day's most angst-inducing examples with you. Usually I'm more than ready to link you to an ignorant post that pisses me off, say, one that contains the phrase "Tomorrow he goes to trial for his 3rd offense DUI and plans to have his public defender ( not a lawyer, just a public defender)..." or "So i am freaking out a lil bit.. becuase i did not have the money for a real lawyer i got a public defender..(free lawyer) which i dont really trust them..."Charmed I'm sure.
Tonight, though, I found a post slagging a criminal defense colleague and naming names, written by an extremely disgruntled family member of an incarcerated accused. I'm not linking, but here's the flavor:
His "Defense Attorney"... just wants him to "cop a plea..."
These attorneys are, for the most part very eager to settle the case. With exceptions, they're normally not the sharpest knife in the drawer...
Lather, rinse, repeat.
So I'm asking for your comments here. Do I share this link with my colleague (I like this colleague)? Would you want to know? Would you just as soon not know?
Update: Thanks to everyone for the good comments and advice. Today I did give the link to my colleague, who took the news much better than I would. Was amused in fact. Shared the printed-out post with other colleagues in fact. We crim-def types are a thick-skinned lot.
Posted by: Skelly / 7:11 PM Comments (12) | Trackback (0)"
Now, being as he shared a link to this blog for all of his defense-inclined sistren and brethren to link back here I think I've garnered some attention for bi-polar brother in law by (at least) someone over there at the Public Defender's office... but then again... maybe not.
Bi-polar brother in law told me she visited him this afternoon... wanted to know who his covert brother in law is... covert??? Where'd she get that from? He told her and she evidently went off on him because he also told her he wasn't pleading guilty to the fourth degree assault (see, I knew she'd try to get him to plead).
Update: I shared the blog information with bi-polar brother in law... (which, by the way is not a defense... bi-polar disorders. We never said it was, never said it should be... I just call him that because I really don't want to post his name all over the 'net so it's my way of identifying him to this blog's readers.)
Anyways, I shared the blog information with him and let him know it was visited... which most likely prompted her visit to him.
Now, if you want to read the other blogger's blog here's the link... You'll get the full gist of the conversation. Be sure to read the "comments" and note that I didn't post anonymously, covertly (lol... that's funny!).
The following is an excerpt from a blog authored by an attorney who claims on his blog to be a colleague of bi-polar brother in law's "Public Defender".
"April 17, 2006
Blog slag - advice wanted
My defense-inclined sistren and brethren:
You know I spend an unseemly amount of time browsing the various search engines for the latest tidings of public defender joy from the internets.
Usually I share the day's most angst-inducing examples with you. Usually I'm more than ready to link you to an ignorant post that pisses me off, say, one that contains the phrase "Tomorrow he goes to trial for his 3rd offense DUI and plans to have his public defender ( not a lawyer, just a public defender)..." or "So i am freaking out a lil bit.. becuase i did not have the money for a real lawyer i got a public defender..(free lawyer) which i dont really trust them..."Charmed I'm sure.
Tonight, though, I found a post slagging a criminal defense colleague and naming names, written by an extremely disgruntled family member of an incarcerated accused. I'm not linking, but here's the flavor:
His "Defense Attorney"... just wants him to "cop a plea..."
These attorneys are, for the most part very eager to settle the case. With exceptions, they're normally not the sharpest knife in the drawer...
Lather, rinse, repeat.
So I'm asking for your comments here. Do I share this link with my colleague (I like this colleague)? Would you want to know? Would you just as soon not know?
Update: Thanks to everyone for the good comments and advice. Today I did give the link to my colleague, who took the news much better than I would. Was amused in fact. Shared the printed-out post with other colleagues in fact. We crim-def types are a thick-skinned lot.
Posted by: Skelly / 7:11 PM Comments (12) | Trackback (0)"
Now, being as he shared a link to this blog for all of his defense-inclined sistren and brethren to link back here I think I've garnered some attention for bi-polar brother in law by (at least) someone over there at the Public Defender's office... but then again... maybe not.
Bi-polar brother in law told me she visited him this afternoon... wanted to know who his covert brother in law is... covert??? Where'd she get that from? He told her and she evidently went off on him because he also told her he wasn't pleading guilty to the fourth degree assault (see, I knew she'd try to get him to plead).
Update: I shared the blog information with bi-polar brother in law... (which, by the way is not a defense... bi-polar disorders. We never said it was, never said it should be... I just call him that because I really don't want to post his name all over the 'net so it's my way of identifying him to this blog's readers.)
Anyways, I shared the blog information with him and let him know it was visited... which most likely prompted her visit to him.
Now, if you want to read the other blogger's blog here's the link... You'll get the full gist of the conversation. Be sure to read the "comments" and note that I didn't post anonymously, covertly (lol... that's funny!).
Thursday, April 13, 2006
what's the thought...
...behind some of the queries???
I was checking "Recent Keyword Activity" and received the following information from StatCounter today.
I'm wondering what really is behind some of these searches... particularly the one on 8 Apr 14:54:25.
...so I had to see what else came up in their search. LOL!!! I never knew they made those things!!!
Anyway, it's pretty rugged.
So, here's the list. Much of it is self explanatory...
...now, I'm going off to do that search again.
Enjoy!
-10 Apr 15:07:39 search.yahoo.com cysts on knuckles http://fyrcop.blogspot.com/
-10 Apr 15:06:58 search.yahoo.com cysts on knuckles http://fyrcop.blogspot.com/
-10 Apr 14:07:27 www.google.com liquidlogic manta ray alabama http://fyrcop.blogspot.com/
-9 Apr 00:28:37 www.google.com fishing kayaks liquidlogic manta ray http://fyrcop.blogspot.com/
-8 Apr 17:37:47 search.msn.com why do my knuckles hurt http://fyrcop.blogspot.com/
-8 Apr 14:54:25 search.msn.com bi-polar butt plug http://fyrcop.blogspot.com/
-8 Apr 09:42:14 www.google.com http://fyrcop.blogspot.com http://fyrcop.blogspot.com/
-7 Apr 20:49:07 www.google.com driving colville to spokane http://fyrcop.blogspot.com/
-7 Apr 19:39:05 search.msn.com type of car i am 2006/01/what-type-of-car-am-i.html
-7 Apr 09:41:16 search.msn.com how to mix vinegar & honey 2005/04/honey-vinegar-water-and-green-tea.html
-5 Apr 07:48:30 search.msn.com proof that elvis is alive 2005/10/hes-alive.html
-4 Apr 21:03:42 search.msn.com honey and vinegar for weight loss 2005/04/honey-vinegar-water-and-green-tea.html
-4 Apr 11:16:06 search.msn.com vinegar&honey 2005/04/honey-vinegar-water-and-green-tea.html
-3 Apr 19:10:33 search.msn.com drinking apple cider vinegar for hair loss 2005/04/honey-vinegar-water-and-green-tea.html
-3 Apr 18:40:14 search.msn.com raw oyster preparation 2006/01/eating-raw-oysters.html
-3 Apr 11:53:04 search.msn.com what type of car am i? 2006/01/what-type-of-car-am-i.html
-3 Apr 11:45:46 search.msn.com what type of car am i? 2006/01/what-type-of-car-am-i.html
-3 Apr 09:43:07 search.msn.com hobo spider pics 2005/09/is-it-hobo-spider-or-isnt-it.html
-31 Mar 12:40:12 search.msn.com vinegar and honey 2005/04/honey-vinegar-water-and-green-tea.html
-31 Mar 09:08:38 search.msn.com type of soul 2006/02/what-type-of-soul-am-i.html
I encourage you to take some of these "searches" yourself just to see what comes up. Darned interesting... some of this stuff.
I was checking "Recent Keyword Activity" and received the following information from StatCounter today.
I'm wondering what really is behind some of these searches... particularly the one on 8 Apr 14:54:25.
...so I had to see what else came up in their search. LOL!!! I never knew they made those things!!!
Anyway, it's pretty rugged.
So, here's the list. Much of it is self explanatory...
...now, I'm going off to do that search again.
Enjoy!
-10 Apr 15:07:39 search.yahoo.com cysts on knuckles http://fyrcop.blogspot.com/
-10 Apr 15:06:58 search.yahoo.com cysts on knuckles http://fyrcop.blogspot.com/
-10 Apr 14:07:27 www.google.com liquidlogic manta ray alabama http://fyrcop.blogspot.com/
-9 Apr 00:28:37 www.google.com fishing kayaks liquidlogic manta ray http://fyrcop.blogspot.com/
-8 Apr 17:37:47 search.msn.com why do my knuckles hurt http://fyrcop.blogspot.com/
-8 Apr 14:54:25 search.msn.com bi-polar butt plug http://fyrcop.blogspot.com/
-8 Apr 09:42:14 www.google.com http://fyrcop.blogspot.com http://fyrcop.blogspot.com/
-7 Apr 20:49:07 www.google.com driving colville to spokane http://fyrcop.blogspot.com/
-7 Apr 19:39:05 search.msn.com type of car i am 2006/01/what-type-of-car-am-i.html
-7 Apr 09:41:16 search.msn.com how to mix vinegar & honey 2005/04/honey-vinegar-water-and-green-tea.html
-5 Apr 07:48:30 search.msn.com proof that elvis is alive 2005/10/hes-alive.html
-4 Apr 21:03:42 search.msn.com honey and vinegar for weight loss 2005/04/honey-vinegar-water-and-green-tea.html
-4 Apr 11:16:06 search.msn.com vinegar&honey 2005/04/honey-vinegar-water-and-green-tea.html
-3 Apr 19:10:33 search.msn.com drinking apple cider vinegar for hair loss 2005/04/honey-vinegar-water-and-green-tea.html
-3 Apr 18:40:14 search.msn.com raw oyster preparation 2006/01/eating-raw-oysters.html
-3 Apr 11:53:04 search.msn.com what type of car am i? 2006/01/what-type-of-car-am-i.html
-3 Apr 11:45:46 search.msn.com what type of car am i? 2006/01/what-type-of-car-am-i.html
-3 Apr 09:43:07 search.msn.com hobo spider pics 2005/09/is-it-hobo-spider-or-isnt-it.html
-31 Mar 12:40:12 search.msn.com vinegar and honey 2005/04/honey-vinegar-water-and-green-tea.html
-31 Mar 09:08:38 search.msn.com type of soul 2006/02/what-type-of-soul-am-i.html
I encourage you to take some of these "searches" yourself just to see what comes up. Darned interesting... some of this stuff.
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